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 Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:28 pm |
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Everyone on this earth will have a chance to choose God or reject Him. That is why He is the Loving God that He is. Everyone will have the chance. Even in other countries where there are "other" gods. Jesus' second coming will not happen until everyone on the earth has decided for or against.
Procrastination works against many of us, a good tool Satan has developed to make us think we are safe in waiting until tomorrow to decide. Time flies fast. With more communication available, the Word will be spread via satellite, internet and whatever else is out there. One thing that can be said for sure, God knows every heart and He is the judge of who will be saved and who won't be. He knows why each of us are the way we are because of events that happened to us in childhood to make us more stubborn and resistful to His pleas to turn to Him and be saved. There are things that we don't even remember that happened to us as children that play a prominent role why we are searching for something, but yet reject the idea of there being a God. Like Jesus has said before, I would rather you be hot or cold. He doesn't want anyone to be lukewarm. It doesn't accomplish anything but bring down others into a false sense of security. No middle ground in this situation.
The only thing a person can do is genuinely ask God for direction, wait and listen. He did this for me. I was totally against any church out there but one day it all changed. I can't explain it, it wasn't my doing. Now, I can see where He has guided me and directed me the past 10 years. Everyone's experience is different but uplifting at the same time. I may not be able to prove that God is real, but I can FEEL that He is real and relate my experience.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:22 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rawb Good post. And of course God will lead us to where we should be at the right time. So we can learn what we need so we can grow. And God will never give us more than we can handle.
Rawb, I grew up believing that. My mom always reminded us of that when things weren't going well. A friend used to say, "He's just testing you." Sometimes, though, especially the last few years, I wonder...haven't I passed the test yet? LOL
Many times, when I thought I could handle no more, I've been further tested. But in the end, it all works out. But gee...when am I going to finally pass that test? LOL
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:02 am |
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My wife and I, we get frustrated somtimes but then we have this joke (not really a joke but) if I am getting sick of all the trials and getting fed up, she will say," come on now, don't forget about Longsuffering ". Yes, longsuffering indeed. And vice versa. I will say it to her when she's fed up with all the kids' extra work load. So it is a joke, but yet it's not. We have used it as a way to remind ourselves that the trials will always be there, as long as there is something that God wants us to learn. When we truly pass them, we won't have them again. I seem to keep getting stuck on a few. Maybe a few more gray hairs before I learn.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:11 am |
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Sometimes I'd like to say, "Ok, let's just agree that I've flunked this test and move on. Give me a new test instead!" The same old test gets old and frustrating.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:21 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rawb Maybe a few more gray hairs before I learn.
But my hair is a very shiny silver! There's nothing left to turn gray! Wonder what effect the next test will have since there's no dark hair left?
But hey! My hair turned silver instead of gray. People stop me on the street and ask how I got my hair that color. Even beauticians have stopped me on the street and in stores. When I tell them I grew it, they always say something like, "I've been trying for years to get that out of a bottle!"
Just as my mom always said, "There is a silver lining behind every cloud." And I guess my silver hair instead of gray is one silver lining.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:53 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Quertol
What???
earth to quertol........i died on the cross!!coulda kicked ass,but no,did the will of the father!!take up "your" cross and follow me!!.....get it!?your bible different or somethin!?oh!!wait!!you read the words,but follow the actions of unsaved and carnal men!!now we get it!!your heart is far from me!!lip service is all i get!!........call it a milk or meat thing!!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:04 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by SubJunk These are all possibilities, but the Christian God (New Testament) is a loving and forgiving God and if he exists I don't think it would matter to him which religion you are. If Christian is the only "correct" religion, for example, I think God would let people who pray to other Gods into Heaven. After all, it would be mean not to, there are a lot of people who haven't even heard of the Christian God, it would be unfair to them to not be let in because of something out of their control.
If someone prays, assuming any God exists at all, whether they call Him God, Allah, Zeus or whatever, it would still be the same God who hears the prayers, wouldn't it? Or does the Christian God filter out the prayers to other Gods?
According to the Bible He doesn't want other people worshipping false Gods, but if they've never heard of Him what else are they supposed to do?
i heard hearing is not what we think it is.one of the 5 human senses but in biblical meaning the only sense.like when someone yells your name when you least expect it.a form of attention.complete attention.think of military training as a substitute.so just hearing "of" a god is not the same as "hearing" god.and hearing cometh by the word of god.what is the word of god!?jesus is the living word of god.seen(heard) him lately!?i've seen alotta people talkin about him.talk is cheap.and it pays well too!it's one thing to accept a gift so as not to offend.it's another thing to expect it as programmed response.but that's business(show) as usual.cash flow is the name of the game.pay,pray, or get outa the way!!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:42 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by linsm763 To begin with, Eve and Adam did not eat an apple, in fact, the bible tells us that they ate the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge(good and evil). There is not one word in the bible that says that they ate an apple.
The spirit of the wicked angel went into the body of a snake. It was not a snake that conned Eve.
God's word is in the bible.The scriptures were given to the writers chosen by our lord.We have a choice just as Adam and Eve had a choice.
One purpose that we have is to trust in our lord, to spread his word, to follow his word. In fact, this is our main purpose. If there is anything else, he wants us to do, the lord will show us if we allow him to do so.
i disagree with your statement that we have the same choice as adam and eve.our only choice is "if" we can see(hear) the word of god(jesus).and the wicked angel works to keep the lost,lost,by challenging the actions/words of the believers.by scripture itself or by sincerity of sacrifice(degree).JOB comes to mind.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:21 pm |
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Quote: Originally Posted by SubJunk These are all possibilities, but the Christian God (New Testament) is a loving and forgiving God and if he exists I don't think it would matter to him which religion you are. If Christian is the only "correct" religion, for example, I think God would let people who pray to other Gods into Heaven. After all, it would be mean not to, there are a lot of people who haven't even heard of the Christian God, it would be unfair to them to not be let in because of something out of their control.
If someone prays, assuming any God exists at all, whether they call Him God, Allah, Zeus or whatever, it would still be the same God who hears the prayers, wouldn't it? Or does the Christian God filter out the prayers to other Gods?
According to the Bible He doesn't want other people worshipping false Gods, but if they've never heard of Him what else are they supposed to do? I think those false gods apply when we KNOW that we are worshipping false gods (we are choosing things over God instead) (which is anything that we do in place of God or make more important than God). Or what about worshipping the false idol of believing there is no God? Making ourselves our own gods instead? I believe there are some religions out there that say we become gods eventually and the like. If you read in genesis, wasn't that what satan was saying to Eve? And now we have some religions also teaching that very same thing. Dangerous grounds there.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:37 pm |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Synik Why is it you feel we need a purpose??? Could it be that we are just here??? Our origins we not for any noble purpose, that the universe just came about through a chance big bang type of scenario and then we just evolved to the life form we are today??? Does not having a purpose undermine our existance??? How so? And when a person feels they have a purpose, whether it be to help others or solve world problems, is that a bad thing? Hope alone can give a person a reason to live. Things are dreary enough on this earth with all of the suffering and pain we see daily.
If a person were in jail for a crime they didn't commit, would it be better for them to HOPE that the truth will be learned one day and be set free? or merely settle for the fact that they are in jail and just exist? maybe even want to kill themselves?
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maybe they could see that maybe there is a purpose for being in jail; a lesson to learn, or perhaps God is trying to teach them something they would not have otherwise learned in any other circumstance. I have read of people in jails where they help other inmates find God or turn a negative situation into a positive one. Life is what we make it. No matter what, it is better for us and others to be more positive. Better for our health too. Most people have a hope of some kind in something.
Would people still play the lottery if there was absolutely no hope of winning?
From what God says we have a purpose, so that's what I believe.
Synik, do you still go to church? Did you have a negative experience with it? For a Catholic, you seem to portray that you believe in the big bang more than immaculate conception. I'm not being sarcastic here, just asking something that I'm starting to pick up on with the things you post.
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