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so how do you go about bringing this speculation to public awareness. I feel like alot of people already know that this has/is happening.
there is noone powerful enough, who opposes a nwo (or their methods of bringing one), to bring this to justice. There is distrust among the people. There needs to be more than a published book and webforum hear-say.
any ideas? working for a solution now.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:59 am |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:56 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by JuliaWinston Why would any country attack its own people? I think that these conspiracy theories are formed by spending too much time watching TV. I was just playing a video game demo with the exact same conspiracy as its plot: http://dlx.gamespot.com/pc/actofwar...fo_6116389.html Why would Bush send thousands of american soldiers to "liberate" Iraq based on LIES?? If he did that what else wouldn't he be capable of. He's lied so many times(look at my post in the other thread!)
I can't believe so many still believe the "official story!"...When I think about the vicitms of 911 attacks and their families it angers and irritates me. That after 5 years most still aren't aware of the overwhelming evidence that contradicts what actually happened. That there have been numerous people doing their own research and investigations since Bush and his administration don't seem to care and still haven't dealt with the many unanswered questions from the public and families of the victims of the attacks....I guess it's understandable that most people would think it's unbelievable. Or "WHY" would they do that? Just because it's unbelievable doesn't mean it can't happen or doesn't happen! Just take alook at all the things that have happened througout history and also what is currently happening right now. Humans are very capable of commiting "unbelievable" things. They seem unbelievable but guess what, It does happen!
These "theories" definitely haven't been formed because of watching too much tv! They don't mention any of the real "evidence" on tv! That's just an ignorant, misinformed statement, sorry to sound harsh. You're just another "victim" of the government/media. Do you even have any IDEA how much evidence and inconsistencies there is and proof that really doubts the government's version of what happened..There's so many things that clearly shows atleast there's a possibility that what we were told wasn't the entire truth...A high probability in fact...
I suggest you and others go and look at them yourselves and then decide instead of some just labelling it as a conspiracy..I think the victims of the attacks deserve atleast that, don't you...
September 11th And The Bush Administration
Compelling Evidence for Complicity
http://www.informationclearinghouse...article4582.htm
People who question the official version of the 9/11/01 attack are reflexively branded by the "opinion leaders" in the media as conspiracy theorists
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/...conspiracy.html
The 9/11/01 Attack:
Means, Motive, and Precedent
http://www.911review.com/reason.html
A Resource for Understanding the 9/11/01 Attack
http://www.911review.com/
The 9/11/01 Attack:
Reality and Mythology
http://www.911review.com/report.html
The 9/11 Myth
http://www.911review.com/myth/index.html
Willingness to look at the proof about 9-11.
http://www.911proof.com/
Unplug the War Machine
By Facing the Truth of 9/11!
http://www.911sharethetruth.com/
'9/11' Anomalies
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/.../anomalies.html
Disinformation! Maintaining the Official Story in the Face of Glaring Contradictions
http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/index.html
WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACK
UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
http://whatreallyhappened.com/unanswered.html
9/11 - ARE AMERICANS THE VICTIMS OF A HOAX?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/hoax.html
9/11 - An Inside Job?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/inside.html
9/11 - Pure Coincidences?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/coincidences.html
9/11 - WHAT DID THE GOVERNMENT KNOW AND WHEN DID IT KNOW IT?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/govknow.html
9/11: All In One Chunk
http://whatreallyhappened.com/9-11BasicQuestions
A Pattern of Evidence Destruction, Evidence Suppression, and Cover-up by Authorities and 9/11 Commission
http://www.flcv.com/coverup.html
http://www.911inplanesite.com/index.html
Evidence Examination
http://www.911inplanesite.com/911synopsis.html
THE TRUTH ABOUT SEPT 11!
Compiled by Gerard Holmgren
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/holmgren/holmgren2.htm
Brads 911 Investigation
http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911/br...ndex/index.html
There has never been an independent inquiry in the events of 9/11
http://911review.org/
IF A PHOTOGRAPH SPEAKS A THOUSAND WORDS, WHAT DOES VIDEO SAY?
http://www.911inplanesite.com/911synopsis.html
News Archive: 9/11 Prior Knowledge and Government Complicity
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html
http://www.septembereleventh.org/
9/11 'ODDITIES'
http://www.legitgov.org/9_1_1_oddities.html
Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP310A.html
An Interesting Day:
President Bush's Movements and Actions on 9/11
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/...restingday.html
exposing the Bush Doctrine of greed, repression and fraud
http://blatanttruth.org/9-11.php
Rumsfeld's Freudian Slip: Plane "Shot Down" Over Pennsylvania
http://www.prisonplanet.com/article...204shotdown.htm
Osama bin Laden:
A dead nemesis perpetuated by the US government
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html
The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie!
http://www.septembereleventh.org/ne...22-571pglie.php
9/11 and the Mainstream Press
http://www.septembereleventh.org/ne...9-pressclub.php
How the USAF was
Stood Down on 9/11
http://whatreallyhappened.com/usaf_911.html
NORAD Stand-Down
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/...orad/index.html
The 9/11 Reichstag Fire
http://whatreallyhappened.com/911_reichstag.html
Senate Intelligence chairman quietly 'fixed' intelligence, and diverted blame from White House over Iraq
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/HowSe...ouse__0811.html
Scrambled F15�s From Otis Air Force Base: Mach 1.5 or Cruise Speed?
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles...rambledf15s.htm
25 Things We Now Know Three Years After 9/11
http://www.democraticunderground.co...threeyears.html
Related Historical Events
http://reopen911.org/index.htm#History
The Hegelian Dialectic in History: Operation Northwoods
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html#northwoods
Historical Precedents
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/...precedents.html
Sword Play: Attacking Civilians to Justify "Greater Security"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/article...05swordplay.htm
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 2:57 am |
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Hello moc.macs,
Very good collection of links you have assembled for us. Thank you for taking the time to compose and transmit your documentation to this forum.
Ms. Julia Winston does not understand that certain people who have hidden agendas and allegiances that are not to this nation or its laws have been attacking its own people regularly since at least the night Abraham Lincoln was killed and most of his cabinet attacked.
These attacks have been escalating in frequency and intensity steadily since 11-22-1963, 12:45 PM GMT-06:00 and have taken on a hideous aspect since the sieges at Ruby Ridge and the Branch Davidian Church at Waco.
What people who are not high-ranking government officials or military officers are often unable to comprehend is that in the prosecution of war, there is no human nor property that is not expendable at any level below the owners of the industries responsible for manufacturing the materials of war and the owners of the financial institutions that provide fiat currencies for them to exchange. With no comprehension of that aspect of warfare it becomes difficult to believe 'Conspiracy Theories / Conspiracy Theorist(s)' and easy to suspend disbelief and optin to accept the 'Conventional Wisdom' as told by a completely fabricated 'Cover Story'.
See: Mark Lane: "Plausible Denial" and "Rush To Judgement"
The Carlyle Group earned income on insurance contracts when those towers fell and they are earning income on the blood of our duped military personnel as well as innocent Iraqi and Afghanistani civilians.
The Bush family is now, and has been for many generations, mercenaries for hire representing the global BANKING CRIME FAMILIES. They cannot be trusted to administer this nation's Executive Branch and must be removed as soon as possible.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:33 am |
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so i have done a search on Operation NOrthwoods, and i dont see any hard evidence that this is true at all.
Not only does everyone of the articles that come up after a yahoo search not have the ACTUAL government -de-classified document (no government site links, all blogs/personals/news/book reviews sites), but the articles themselves have so many holes in them.
I highly doubt each page of every FBI document, once de-classified, gets a big red stamp like that at the top of every page of every memo/letter/file/dossier/anyhting typed there.
The diction used in the document is horrendously un-American.
This idea, while seemingly has a lot of semi-credibility behind it, is just like 9-11 conspiracies.....lots of hype, but nothing to get too excited over...
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:42 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by JuliaWinston Why would any country attack its own people? I think that these conspiracy theories are formed by spending too much time watching TV. I was just playing a video game demo with the exact same conspiracy as its plot: http://dlx.gamespot.com/pc/actofwar...fo_6116389.html
Governments, and other powerful people, have, for thousands of years, been prepared to sacrifice a few people in order to gain the high moral ground.
Look at GWB and Tony Blair; both claim that the 'war' in Iraq was justified, when the whole world knows that it was illegal. Saddam Hussein messed people about, before getting a final threat, from the UN, because he didn't want anyone to know that he was impotent.
Had the weapons inspectors been given a further few months, they would have reached that conclusion, without such a great loss of life. 12,000/14,000 civilians were kiled in bombing raids on Iraq, by US figures. Others put that figure at nearer 20,000.
In WW1, men were forced to go 'over the top' in order to gain the slightest advantage; no concern was given to their loss of life, by those men's own governments. So, what has changed? Nothing!
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