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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:56 am |
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Anyone here aware of whether that is a legit operation or not?
Thanks in advance -
Newdad
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:42 am |
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Sojutask, the experience of the majority of people with Brixdale has been nothing but postive. It works for them and that is what matters. There is nothing to debate about Brixdale, ponzi and what not. Can't you see what the guy cares about? It is working for him. At least, he can get some creditors of his back with his hard-earned commission checks, and stop the banks from foreclosing on his home, so he can have somewhere to lay his head at night. People are not going to listen to you if your expertise is to scare them away from programs that are working in their favor. They want solutions. Answers! Bills are killing them. With all due respect, please show us your own utopian-styled plan, to help the average consumer become successful.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:58 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by letspreadtheword Sojutask, the experience of the majority of people with Brixdale has been nothing but postive. It works for them and that is what matters. There is nothing to debate about Brixdale, ponzi and what not. Can't you see what the guy cares about? It is working for him. At least, he can get some creditors of his back with his hard-earned commission checks, and stop the banks from foreclosing on his home, so he can have somewhere to lay his head at night. People are not going to listen to you if your expertise is to scare them away from programs that are working in their favor. They want solutions. Answers! Bills are killing them. With all due respect, please show us your own utopian-styled plan, to help the average consumer become successful.
Hey letspreadtheword, Why do you attach sojustask? She only gave an opinion. You have done much more to destroy your credibility on this site than sojust. She said in the post that it would work, but that it was a more costly bi-monthly payment plan. Why are all your "answers" involved in questionable MLM/Pyramid type activities. Why not recommend they get a second job, etc. You ask for a plan to help the average consumer become sucessful, yet offer no valid plan of your own.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:30 am |
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As I am responding to you, they are campaigning on national TV that SIX more low wage countries have been added to the list of countries that jobs are being shipped to, and the government is not doing anything about it, at least not that we know of. I did not put the AD up. But I am as outraged as those campaigning against it. Go get a second job! You're right! At the expense of not being around or have the time to raise your children properly. You people have no idea the damage corporate america is doing to the working class.
My credibility is not what matters here. I do not bash programs I know is successful for others, even if I don't like it. I don't like Amway, Quixtar, Cyberwize, MaryKay, and many others; but I will not discourage others from participating if they so choose, because they are working for people who have the drive, money and motivation.
What you guys are doing is ignorantly stalling other people's progress by putting a dent on their credibility. A scam should be determined by the people who participate in it, and not by one man's theory. I am very sensitive to people's survival, because it means a lot to them. Unlike you, I will never say something is a scam unless I can prove beyond all reasonable doubt that it is truly a scam, because a scam is a fraudulent money-making scheme at the expense of someone else.
The guy who wrote about Brixdale was only writing about HIS PERSONAL experience. The subject has been discussed at length. It is now time to leave grown ups to make a personal decision as to whether it makes sense to them or not.
I personally don't have a solution for people. That is why I wait till I get my facts right before I call something a scam. I just don't go on the internet and dig up information obtained from a third party and present it to people and call it evidence. Afterwards, the government and the media are not always right and we know it.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:05 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by letspreadtheword As I am responding to you, they are campaigning on national TV that SIX more low wage countries have been added to the list of countries that jobs are being shipped to, and the government is not doing anything about it, at least not that we know of. I did not put the AD up. But I am as outraged as those campaigning against it. Go get a second job! You're right! At the expense of not being around or have the time to raise your children properly. You people have no idea the damage corporate america is doing to the working class.
My credibility is not what matters here. I do not bash programs I know is successful for others, even if I don't like it. I don't like Amway, Quixtar, Cyberwize, MaryKay, and many others; but I will not discourage others from participating if they so choose, because they are working for people who have the drive, money and motivation.
What you guys are doing is ignorantly stalling other people's progress by putting a dent on their credibility. A scam should be determined by the people who participate in it, and not by one man's theory. I am very sensitive to people's survival, because it means a lot to them. Unlike you, I will never say something is a scam unless I can prove beyond all reasonable doubt that it is truly a scam, because a scam is a fraudulent money-making scheme at the expense of someone else.
The guy who wrote about Brixdale was only writing about HIS PERSONAL experience. The subject has been discussed at length. It is now time to leave grown ups to make a personal decision as to whether it makes sense to them or not.
I personally don't have a solution for people. That is why I wait till I get my facts right before I call something a scam. I just don't go on the internet and dig up information obtained from a third party and present it to people and call it evidence. Afterwards, the government and the media are not always right and we know it.
Oh you are so ridiculous. Myself and others did the due diligence and research on Brixdale since the first question asked about it way back in January. Had you bothered to look at the thread I posted you would have seen the results of that research.
Secondly, I am a paralegal. I work to help people who get swindled by similar types of programs dealing with Mortgage elimination to not lose their homes once they have been abandoned by the programs they had so much faith in or the owners have been caught up to and jailed. The Dorean Group was the last fiasco I warned people about. Not only am I familiar with "corporate America" but I'm familiar with the mortgage industry.
I also know that this program is overpriced. The same thing can be gotten for less than a $100.00 a year, not only paying off one's house early but enabling them to work a legitimate, less risky and more honest program that won't have the Feds coming after them sometime down the road.
And gee, given that scenario, they will still be able to lay their head down at night and sleep peacefully.
If you want the proof sir, go to the Brixdale thread and EDUCATE yourself. But stop spouting off here about things you are not familiar with.
Lady Mod
P.S. Thanks CPA4. I appreciate the support in my defence.
Namaste'
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:57 am |
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Last response. I don't have time to be going back and forth.
Ridiculous? Go talk to the average man on the street with bills to pay and mouths to feed, then you will know who is ridiculous.
Yep! People contacted their attorneys, CPAs and other leading experts too. By the way, I first learnt about Brixdale when they were only about three months old. Even though I contacted the BBB and was told they have no complaints against them, I still deactivated my account to adopt the "wait and see" attitude, and still haven't heard of anyone who have been scammed. I am not against your personal opinions or anyone else's about any program. I am against the misuse and abuse of the word "scam" and "pyramid scheme."
Too many people have been chased off good, structured, workable and legitimate programs at the sound of those two dreaded words.
Anyway, I would like to know about the similar programs that for $100.00 a year, one can pay off their mortgage earlier, because I am a homeowner who have tried the bi-weekly program.
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Quote one internet source:
"Brixdale Inverse Mortgage:
While reviewing the negativity and false slanderous accusations against Brixdale, one should think twice about allowing these unsubstantiated claims to pollute their decision making.
Brixdale has stirred a lot of national attention and rightfully so. Anytime a company embarks on an amazing innovative solution it stands to be scrutinized. It is my belief however they have endured excessive slander and negativity surrounding their business services & network marketing program. I admire their ability to maintain high integrity and business success while experiencing such phenomenal startup success.
The Brixdale Inverse Mortgage program will, with time, be able to boast testimonials from people actually paying their mortgages OFF within record time. There are many satisfied participants who are well on their way to accomplishing this. Because this program provides such a valuable service and rewarding opportunity, it is easy to promote in not only the mortgage financing marketplace but also in the self employment / home business arena.
ALL members of the Brixdale Inverse Mortgage receive a benefit regardless of their level of association - PERIOD! They are NOT involved in illegal scams, unscrupulous products or services, illegal pyramid, ponzi, or chain distributor schemes. They are utilizing an effective electronic payment service and/or marketing a wonderful business opportunity and receiving legitimate lucrative direct sales commissions.
There will never be a shortage of people renting or paying mortgages, thus never a shortage of people to purchase and use this service. In the event the business model (i.e. the last Brixdale member) could/would reach the last uninvolved mortgage or renter consumer available, THE BRIXDALE MEMBER WOULD NOT experience economic financial hardship, or lose ANY MONEY whatsoever. The required fee is a fee for the service and opportunity - there are no investments or continuing dues/membership fees/etc. Everyone joining Brixdale will pay a fee to use the service and market the opportunity; however, the bright side is that most people will never experience this as an 'out of pocket' expense. Their obligatory fee can be taken from commissions earned, thus resulting in a net out of pocket expense of ZERO.
Examples:
* Mortgage holder joins and never sells the service to anybody. Member benefits by the extra payment made against their mortgage principal. The savings for this will vary depending on the amount of the mortgage loan, and interest rate. The member will ALWAYS receive a MORTGAGE REDUCTION SERVICE BENEFIT. Their program fee would ultimately be the only cost incurred to this person and would be a justifiable expense to the electronic payment service provided as well as a home based business venture.
* Renter joins and never sells service to anybody. The renter is benefiting by not having to manually pay their rent. They will save both time and money from never manually mailing in a payment again. They will also be placing an extra payment in a savings register for later use at their discretion. They are given a business opportunity to earn high cash earnings via direct sales commissions as well the savings program for future home purchases. Like any other home based business or network marketing program, your success is in direct relationship to your marketing/sales efforts. Their program fee would ultimately be the only cost incurred to this person and would be a justifiable expense to the electronic payment service provided as well as a home based business venture.
* A reseller joins (as an affiliate for a home business opportunity only) and never sells the service to anybody. He has unsuccessfully ventured into a self employment situation where he stands to lose his initial start up investment. This is no different than ANY self-funded business venture. There is always risk associated with any business opportunity. If you embark on a sales driven home business venture and do NOT sell the product, service, or program, you will NOT be successful; regardless of WHAT product, service, or business opportunity you are selling. Ask anyone who has ever experienced this as in today's entrepreneurial market, there are many!
BOTTOM LINE: Brixdale Inverse Mortgage is an excellent mortgage reduction program that electronically services your mortgage or housing payments while providing outstanding direct sales commissions for marketing the service to others. There are NO UPFRONT FEES and the program is 100% RISK FREE. Brixdale pays thru the highly regulated ACH Financial System and electronic transfers are protected thru Federal Banking Regulation E which requires banks to refund any unauthorized transactions - including unauthorized transaction AMOUNTS as well as UNAUTHORIZED payORS, within a specified timeframe. Thus providing FURTHER protection for electronic payment processing.
I have been active in Brixdale since February 2005 and am enjoying every minute of it! Brixdale has provided 100% excellent financial services and my mortgage payments during my initial 4 debit cycle were rec'd by my mortgage companies earlier than expected. I do not know of ANYBODY involved in the program that is having difficulties. I am saving time and money by not having to pay my mortgages myself, I am earning excellent sales commissions for marketing the program to others, I am on track to having my home paid off in record time, and I am glad I chose to become a Brixdale Inverse Mortgage customer!
If anyone would like further information regarding this program, please contact me and I will help you get started and/or understand the program's benefits and business model structure.
There is NOTHING ILLEGAL or UNETHICAL about the Brixdale Inverse Mortgage. There are millions of people who can benefit from this program - you will be successful by just reaching out to a few!" (unquote)
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Equity Zip Financial
"No More Fret - I'm Out of Debt!"
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:30 am |
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Hello
My name is Wayne H. DeMeuse. I joined Brixdale Jan 17, 2005. I opened up a free checking account and deposited my $627 mortgage payment in this account. Waited until Feb 2nd when the 1st debit was made. Checked my mortgage co and the payment was made on time. The payments continued every 23 days until April 10th when my 4th payment in 92 days was debited.
Payment 3 went into an interest bearing account. All payments were made on time. I have introduced 7 people to Brixdale. From these 7 I now have 19 cash folks and 9 points folks. Now the points register comes from the 3rd person you refer. The cash register comes from 4 and on to infinity. I understand this is to change because of compliance with certain laws in a few states. May 27th I received my first check which would have been $1140 but the fee that Brixdale gets was taken out so my check was only $513. My fee is taken care of. I did not get a check in June as the people in my downline had not reached the qualification mark. This month a number qualified and my check is $1829.61. Now you all can call it what ever you want to. My experience has been nothing but positive and I have not paid one cent out of pocket. I am just making my mortgage payments as I would have if Brixdale had not happened for me.
This has been a win win situation. If they are what a lot of you say they are
I don't see it. Anyone want informtion send me an email
mailto:wdemeuse@yahoo.com?subject=mortage
God Bless:Wayne
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:10 am |
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Know what I am doing? I am simply paying my mortgage company every other week. Know the cost..........................ZERO. They love the money early.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:14 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by CPA4 Know what I am doing? I am simply paying my mortgage company every other week. Know the cost..........................ZERO. They love the money early.
Exactly, I pay extra on just the principal every month and that takes a major chunk out of the over all cost in term.s of interest charges too. LOL, apparently Brixdalites aren't capable of that much discipline and they assume no one else is either.
Foolish people.
Namaste'
Lady Mod
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:39 am |
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Quote: Originally Posted by newdad Anyone here aware of whether that is a legit operation or not?
Thanks in advance -
Newdad Just give your house away to the Hare Krishnas. You'll be homeless just the way Brixdale will make you homeless, but you'll get a tax writeoff.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:46 am |
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A new Debt Elimination program is taking the world by storm. I
haven't been following this thread in awhile but I can see that
there are those still searching for a way to eliminate debt and
do so easily. I am also a current Brixdale member since February.
I honestly don't know what is going to happen with Brixdale. I
hope their new program details pann out but for those of us who
have been in from the beginning and have paid advertising out
there referencing the old program, all the paid for advertising I
had initially done for them is pretty much out the window now. My
signups have decreased and I can no longer offer the 2x2
Marketing program I had been initially using to help my members
by advertising and getting their first 2 for them. I am currently
at a stand still with Brixdale and with all the negative press it
is not lucrative for me or my team anymore to pursue advertising
at this time. I don't like the fact that the owners do not have
interaction with their members and are not easily accessible.
Joe from Philly is another Brixdale member who saw a way to
improve on the concept and is doing quite well getting his own
program underway. He is a person I know and is well known in his
community as a single dad trying to make a living on the net and
trying to help others do the same. I am working with him now to
help build Payment Eliminator and so far we are buiding a nice
team. He is taking my marketing suggestions and incorporating
them into the program and I am helping create a duplicatible
marketing program for all those who join.
I am one of the 25 founding members who joined Joe in Payment
Eliminator and I am adopting the same concept toward that program
as I initially had for Brixdale. Joe is right now in the process
of getting the Better Business Bureau's stamp of approval on this
new program that helps eliminate ANY debt not just a mortgage by
offering a bi-weekly program combined with Referral Marketing and
I am so far, the top marketer of this program and building a
solid team now. I will not post my link here on this forum as I
have seen many hands slapped for doing so but if anyone thinks
they could benefit from this concept and would like help getting
started, then just do a google search on "payment eliminator" and
you will find my ad alone on the right hand side under sponsor
links saying
Pay off ANY Debt and Earn an Income
NO Upfront Fee! Profit Today!
I still believe in this concept that can work using referral
marketing to eliminate debt. I want to help others reach that
same success. Duplication is the key to success and the way I am
building my team, those who follow will be successful as well. I
have created a forum for my members where I keep them informed on
a daily basis what is happening in their business. They are never
left alone wondering ....this question: "Who are the owners and
top leaders of this business??"
Be Blessed
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:13 am |
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Profit Legacy,
I appreciate it that you did not post your link. I will say, that even when a Brixdalite you acted with honor. Referral programs are terrific and I support any that have a solid program to refer and a fair start up that is the same initial $$$ investment for every member.
I hope you do well.
Namaste'
Lady Mod
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Quote: Originally Posted by Judge Roy Bean The earlier you get into an MLM/pyramid scheme like "payment eliminator" the more you might make; the later you get in the more you will lose.
The Honorable Judge Roy Bean
http://www.loansharks.blogspot.com
Sir, With all due respect to your title, Why do you automatically assume that Payment Eliminator is an MLM/Pyramid Scheme? That word scheme....it sounds so trashy. Payment Eliminator is not in that category. Have you looked at the program? Have you listened to the presentations or watched the video?? Joe is an honest hard working single father who is well respected in his community and his efforts to make sure this business is approved by the BBB in order to have their stamp on every page is not in the same definition with the word "scheme". It seems no matter what kind of business someone starts if it involves "referral marketing" it is automatically categorized by some as "pyramid scheme". NO Such thing HERE!
Someone coming in tomorrow could be more successful than Me who joined when the doors opened depending on their level of involvement. THAT is NOT a pyramid. I am at the top and if I was to introduce this program to a multimillionaire with a huge downline who comes in to this business, guess what?? I only benefit from his first 2 members....that's it! Every member who joins qualifies for commissions when they introduce it to 3 others. The first two get passed up to the sponsor. It is known as the Aussie 2 up system and is well accepted in many other "businesses" not categorized by some as a "pyramid scheme".
Every member introduced who works to bring their own success only benefits their sponsor with their first 2 members. There are no splitting of commissions between the levels like a matrix. There is nobody at the top feeding from those off the bottom. I mention in my post above that it is not saturated on the internet. It is brand new but being brand new does not mean "pyramid scheme" nor does "brand new" automatically mean and those at the top make money from everyone coming in at the bottom. It only means that my advertising dollars are going to go further than if I had joined after the world already knew about this program and there were tons of referral links all over the place like there is now with Brixdale. I could be pedaling ripped up army fatigues and if no one else is doing so then I have the business coming my way. Same concept here.
Show me after viewing the entire presentation where this is a "pyramid scheme". I am open minded...always have been...and ask anyone here who knows me...if I'm wrong, I don't have a problem admitting it but you better prove it substantially.
Be Blessed
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Quote: Originally Posted by sojustask Profit Legacy,
I appreciate it that you did not post your link. I will say, that even when a Brixdalite you acted with honor. Referral programs are terrific and I support any that have a solid program to refer and a fair start up that is the same initial $$$ investment for every member.
I hope you do well.
Namaste'
Lady Mod
Thanks Steph!
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